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These are such a great group of contemplations and explanations regarding teachers and students. In fact, these seem like the best descriptions of teachers I've ever read. And it also says well how I've come to regard teachers. Thanks to all. I guess there are some teachers who are only doing what t...

Hello Anna. I've not been abused by any "teacher" in the way we've been discussing, but I've been emotionally abused in that precise way for many years in relationships. And still sorting out those errors, so I have a sensitivity to that. What makes it possible for a spiritual teacher (or ...

Every act of conscious learning requires the willingness to suffer an injury to one's self-esteem. That is why young children, before they are aware of their own self-importance, learn so easily; and why older persons, especially if vain or important, cannot learn at all. Something I've been explor...

I'm going to have to get Wei Wu Wei's book. Hello Windabove. In WWW's Fingers... it is a group of various essays, quite a few of which seem very unrelated... like disconnected random thoughts, ponderings. I think this was his first book, and I find it more cumbersome than some of his others. But th...

Now that you mention it, Anna, I do think I've actually run into some New Age Fundamentalists. Wow. What you wrote actually sounds very familiar. Maybe I was trying to forget so I wouldn't/couldn't remember them... selective memory. :o I guess no matter what, someone can make any endeavor into a rig...

In Wei Wu Wei's book, Fingers Pointing Towards the Moon , I found this interesting passage about "Time" and motion that seems related to this discussion and echoes my previous post in this thread. Our concept of Time, but not our percept, as of something in flux, is probably mistaken. Besi...

I don't think I've ever seen a thread change names in mid-stream before. :o :) But just as the thread name was getting an "update," I was re-reading the Nisargadatta quote that started it all and found that it seems to still tie into the Kundalini aspects. "The real does not die, the ...

You mean New Age or Fundamentalist? A lot of thoughts come in regard to how I define these terms, but right off the bat, I realize that I think of Fundamentalist as something very staid, rigid, inflexible, while I think of New Age as what is in a constant state of flux. What is meant by "New Ag...

Well Anna, you've had quite an interesting journey. I'm finding that your insight is interesting and helpful and this discussion has pointed me to even more good book titles. While reading your post, I was reminded that it behooves each of us to learn to listen inwardly to what is best. It seems the...

Oh dear, I didn't mean to suggest that these kinds of experiences are ONLY a result of taking drugs. No Anna, dear, I didn't perceive your words that way either. No worries. I just thought it was worth mentioning another perspective. I happen to suffer with debilitating anxiety, panic attacks, and ...

I felt this incredible freedom, but towards the end of the "thing" I said "No I cant be like that, it's not safe." A couple of months after that I started having panic attacks I thought that I was most likely going insane. A helpful/relevant book on this topic might be Collision...

So very interesting, Speculum... Your ponderings echo some of my own in regard to time and motion. And Anna's offerings are also very relevant to what I was considering posting. This all reminds me of something I wrote on another board. I said that sometimes when it seems that others are in motion, ...

Hello Bhakti. I hadn't realized I would inspire you. I thought this kind of behavior I described was something we'd like to eventually leave behind as we evolve. But in thinking about it again, I can see how it is also useful, appropriate, even wonderfully radiant and divine in its own way. It seems...

Hello Anna, Thanks for sharing this story. It gave me a laugh. And also reminded me of my own "hissing" episode about a year ago. I won't go into all the details, but I wanted to be rid of a harasser. I had no interest in doing any harm, nor in being "un-spiritual" but the situat...

Anyway, we still are in agreement at the inner core of it, for there at that core is IT, and we both can only respond by saying, "Oh," and then talking about what effect IT has had on us. Well no matter if you end up agreeing or not, your thoughtful discussion has been interesting, helpfu...